Sex and gender are made-up concepts (like everything else) feat. Lena Dirscherl
This week, Lena Dirscherl (they/them) expands on some of the many factors that influence gender. In this episode, you will learn: 1. What our thoughts are on the term "transgender" and where we think it's heading in the future. 2. Some of the many different definitions of "queer" or "queerness." 3. How "sex" and "gender" are made-up concepts and why that matters.
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Host Charlie Ocean, MSW (they/them), has a background in LGBTQ+ training, community organizing, and technology. Guest episodes feature at least one allyship tip, including tailored questions based on the guests' unique intersecting identities. You can follow Charlie on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Substack. *You will hear Charlie's former name in this episode and previous ones.*
Creators and Guests
Host
Charlie Ocean, MSW
Pronouns: they/them. Neuroqueer LGBTQ+ speaker, trainer, consultant, podcaster, writer...
Guest
Lena Dirscherl
"But the next time we met, nothing was different and she didn’t say anything. It was just normal. She didn’t even have to say, ‘oh, you guys are so nice to each other,’ or ‘you’re so sweet to each other,’ or ‘that’s cute’ or whatever. She just acted like it’s the most normal thing in the world. And I think sometimes that’s what you need. It’s nice to get approval or to get positive feedback, but sometimes it’s even nicer when you feel like it’s just normal." — Lena, on a friend's reaction to them sharing about their polyamorous relationship
