In this week’s episode, Jaffe (she/her) shares the origins of her drag show, Them Fatale Drag Kings. Learn how she claims the terms "lesbian" and "queer." We also discuss the Los Angeles queer bar scene when we were in our early 20s and how it is present day. Have you ever wondered if you’re welcome to an LGBTQ+ space as someone not from the community? Jaffe talks about how it’s important to have a sense of humor when entering such spaces. We also get vulnerable about how when I was first coming out under the transgender umbrella, our friendship was put to the test and that she would do things much differently today.

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Host Charlie Ocean, MSW (they/them), has a background in LGBTQ+ training, community organizing, and technology. Guest episodes feature at least one allyship tip, including tailored questions based on the guests' unique intersecting identities. You can follow Charlie on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Substack. *You will hear Charlie's former name in this episode and previous ones.*